If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
- Winston Churchill
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." Patrick Henry
WE ARE MILITARY,EX MILITARY,and EVERYDAY AMERICANS WHO TAKE AN OATH TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FROM ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.




WE ARE NOT ANTI GOVERMENT - WE ARE ANTI BAD GOVERMENT.

III

We Are Everywhere.





Saturday, March 27, 2010

Absolute must read article at Sipsey St posted by Supposed marine.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
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4 comments:

  1. SEND IT !!March 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM

    This was posted by a U.S.MARINE . Sipsey street irregulars posted an updated response from SARGE C , he has re thought his position and his printed words and reposted a new version .

    Check it out. I have it here and will post it for those who cannot seem to find it.

    "http://tinyurl.com/y8fdy7e

    A rewrite of a Marine's call for peace and pause that had been reduced into sheer irrelevance....and an apology.

    By Sgt C USMC

    (I want to apologize to all of you who posted your thoughts and feelings regarding the prior article - I de-published the article to rewrite it to this, and it will not re-publish. I understand many people put a lot of effort into those comments, as I put a lot of effort into my replies. If any of the Newsvine community can tell me how I can get the comments back , I will gladly do so. My biggest apology is for my failure as a moderator. I should have done a better part to keep the conversation to the topic at hand and avoid responding to derailing comments.)

    This is intended to be a rewrite of the article that was written - because some people obviously DON'T get it.

    The article I wrote yesterday was intended to be a call for peace, and a moment for pause. In all honesty, it was merely my venting after reading dozens of headlines regarding the type of violence in the US that I was more accustomed to seeing on the daily intel briefing sheets while in theater. I never expected the response I got, and I must admit while some of the comments that I received were some of the greatest thoughts and words I've ever seen - some were words I'd hope no human being would never utter to another. My family and myself were threatened, if for no other reason than because my opinions differed from someone else's. Obviously, the intent of my message was convoluted and lost. This is an attempt to correct it.

    Every service member has sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There's no grey area to that. It's as black and white as it gets.

    I nor any service member wants to combat civilians in this or any other country. I don't know how many times I can reiterate that - we do not want it to happen. Even as we prepare for war, we pray for peace.

    We lace up our boots every morning in an attempt to preserve the freedoms that democracy has awarded us. We all love our country, and we would give our lives to protect it and its way of life.

    Military members must have faith in the system of Government, or the whole chain of command and system of military discipline falls apart. We are rarely given all of the details of our entire mission, and instead are expected to complete seemingly ambiguous tasks in support of that mission with the belief that we are doing the right thing . When we find an order illegal , we're obligated not to follow it, and report it.

    So call me naive, but yes. I do have faith in the Constitution and the mechanisms inside of it to correct itself and removing people unworthy of holding office. If I didn't , I never would've taken an oath to defend it. You just can't defend part of the Constitution, or the parts you agree with. It's all or nothing. I choose to defend all of it ,even the parts I may disagree with.

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  2. SEND IT !!March 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM

    PART 2

    "Probably the most foolish choice of words I chose to use in that article were the words 'civil war' . I just shouldn't have written them. But I could think of no other way to articulate what I felt it would require for the military to become involved. A civilian uprising wouldn't be sufficient, it would require an all out civil war.

    Much of the comments reflected on this poor choice of words - and successfully derailed the conversation from a call for peace and to use the democratic system to resolve our differences, to people arguing over who's side would destroy who. I'll admit, I too was guilty in that regard - and my attempt to compare military and civilian life easily came across as boisterous and hostile, even though its' intent was to be succinct and concise. For that, I apologize.

    BUT DON'T YOU @!$%#ING GET IT?!? In a war, no one wins. Even if you're not wounded, it doesn't mean you leave whole. The images, the feelings, the thoughts never leave you, they're forever etched into your mind, and they become a part of who you are. It's been said that "the people who die in war are the lucky ones - they don't have to live with the memories of what transpired." As morbid as it sounds, in many cases its true.

    And to what end ? What would be left AFTER this 'war' was concluded ? Would anything really change ? Or would we slowly sink back into the quagmire of the status quo, resort back to what's comfortable, and then future generations will be arguing over the very reasoning behind this conflict , just as we now debate the real reason behind the civil war ? What would our children, and their children say when they look back at this point in our history ? Seriously, what does anyone expect to gain from fighting their friends, family, neighbors over a difference of opinion ? That's what this really boils down to - people are screaming for blood because they feel differently than someone else.

    If that's not the definition of madness, I don't know what is. It needs to stop. Now.

    The senatorial elections are coming in November 2010. Everyone who feels passionately about this country , one way or the other, should get out and vote for who THEY think will best represent them . The same in November of 2012. This is your Constitutional right - this is your step in democracy. You get to choose who represents you and your views in the Government.

    If you choose to vote using force instead, not only will you fail in your attempt, but your cause will suffer on account of your actions. You will hurt not only yourself, but also every individual who ever aligns with that cause in the future. Consider that when you're making your decision - our causes are not typically portrayed by our most noble or thoughtful members, but rather the most crude and thoughtless. They forever taint what might otherwise be a worthwhile message.

    So once again, I , an NCO of Marines, call on all people both military and civilian to exercise your Constitutional rights and participate in the democratic process. I urge you to stop reacting, and start instead thinking and considering. I urge you not to immediately dismiss opinions other than your own.

    I urge you to open your minds and consider that maybe, just maybe, there's not a single one of us who has all of the answers, and that includes myself.

    In short, I urge all of you - to treat everyone else as you would want to be treated, whether you agree with them or not.

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  3. SEND IT !!March 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM

    He is trying to talk the situation down, as would anyone who has seen combat. He knows, with no uncertainty that a war in America would forever change the landscape of not only the political backdrop but, of the very citizens of this nation.

    A war on our soil would be very destructive to the nation. Yes, his initial post was threatening and hostile sounding, hey , the guys is a Marine, that is how we do things. He admitted that it was wrong of him to do what he did and he re wrote it , hoping for a different outcome.

    SEMPER FI SARGE C.

    The problem with his post is , it is very idealistic. Things have changed and we as civilians see it, we feel it , it touches us where we don't want to be touched. It is the feeling of being violated and wronged. This government is intrusive, unconstitutional and has violated our rights to LIFE, LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. They have violated the trust we have placed in them and they have failed in their duties to represent us , WE THE PEOPLE.

    The democratic system does not work anymore. THEY IGNORE US SARGE ! They IGNORE OUR PLEAS AND OUR LETTERS, EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS! THEY IGNORE OUR PEACEFUL MARCHES AND OUR PEACEFUL ASSEMBLIES. WE PROTEST PEACEFULLY AND THEY IGNORE US.

    Therefore, we have no choice but to oust the current administration, by ANY MEANS NECESSARY. If that means we have to fight a bloody war on American soil, then so be it, that is what must be done. All they have to do is listen to the very individuals whom they work for and begin to represent us properly. OPEN THEIR EARS AND HEAR US.

    They refuse. What are we then left with ? They ignore us, they call us radicals and extremists and they run THEIR agendas without regard for any of us. We need to oust and install a new set of representatives and we must do this soon , before it is too late.

    SEMPER FIDELIS

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  4. chinasyndromeMarch 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM

    There ain't nothing more to say!

    China
    III

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